Fandom Deathmatch: The Borg vs. The Cybermen
Across fandoms, we can always locate characters (or beings) which have a sick similarity, be it their origins, actions, or simply their appearance. The natural next step is to determine which one — the original, or the “rip off” — has the chops to beat the other. That is the purpose of Fandom Deathmatch. Two fandoms will pit against each other to the death. Who will make it out this time?!
Battle #1: The Borg (Star Trek) vs. The Cybermen (Doctor Who)
The Borg (Star Trek)
Strengths: Instant upgrading/adaptation, high level of technology, collective mind allows for extensive knowledge and strategy.
Weaknesses: Able to revert from Borg to original species, retaining knowledge of Borg system strengths & weaknesses. Connection to Borg Queen, if severed, automatically can shut down entire division of Borg. Borg cannot exist without flesh components. Bullets.
Tagline: “Resistance is futile.”
The Cybermen (Doctor Who)
Strengths: Metal bodies prevent injury, no personal thought processes or emotions, relentless, resistant to most firepower, complete unit thought with ability to not rely on Cyber Controller.
Weaknesses: Gold (older model Cybermen), EMP (electro-magnetic pulse), slow moving, fewer in number
Tagline: “Delete.”
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The Battle:
Two species, both believing that continued upgrading will bring them above everyone else, are to meet for the first time. In this battle, one will determine which has the right to stand above and claim victory over the lesser.
Technologically, the Borg have the upper hand. With integration of countless species, their knowledge of technology and space travel extends beyond that of any other being (except the Time Lords). However, the Cybermen will have the upper hand when conversion of them into the Borg collective is disrupted as they are 90% mechanical, with their outer metal shell likely impenetrable to the Borg conversion wires.
Within three attempts at “Deleting” the Borg, the Cybermen’s main weapon will be rendered useless as the Borg will at that time adapt. If a Cyberman is fortunate enough to take out the Queen Borg, however, this will be of benefit to them as they will incapacitate the Borg almost instantly.
This is highly unlikely, however, as the Borg (due to multiple species within their collective) have vast amounts of knowledge and will counter the Cybermen’s attempts by simply attacking in droves. However, if a Cyberman is effectively taken into the Borg, they will automatically know the Cyberman’s weaknesses and remove them accordingly.
As the Cybermen never work with other species (at least not well), the chances of them being in league with ex-Borg (Captain Picard or Seven of Nine) is slim-to-none due to their history of supremacy over other species.
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Final result and winner:
The Borg, for their ability to adapt within short amounts of time, and continuously upgraded collective mind.
In two weeks, look for Fandom Deathmatch #2: Ellen Ripley (Aliens) vs. Sarah Connor (Terminator)
April 2nd, 2010 at 10:59 pm
wtf sure the borg have adaptation on there side how ever when they asimilate some thing they also in heret the weaknesses so if the borg asimilated a cyberman and then the emotional surpresser was deactivated it would destroy them all… okay that ones a long shot but they cyberman programing is designed to dominate it would over ride the borg programing as its drones dont have the stong will to over power it and such a thing has ac-cured before plus if it came down to the cyber king to the borg queen i think he has an edge as well cybermen have the edge in power and speedier construction of more units plus actual weapons on its units
May 27th, 2010 at 1:50 am
Something that stands out to me that you neglected is that for the Borg to upgrade a Cyberman it would have to find organic tissue and there’s not that much in the current ‘Cybus’ Cybermen. Also, a Borg would have to be within reaching range to upgrade the target, at which point the Cybus unit can utilise the electrical discharge delivered from their hand by physical contact.
Mondasian Cybermen might be a somewhat softer target due to larger quantities of flesh in the armor and dependancy on projectile weaponry which a Borg shield could adapt to. This would be a brute strength fight at that point. Unless of course the original cybermen get an overhaul in the new series.
That said, ship to ship fighting, my money is on the Borg due to their vessels regenerative capabilities and sheer firepower.
June 5th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
When the Borg assimilate a species, they take the “technological and biological distinctiveness”. They take only what is required for them to proceed down their chosen path of perfection; the Klingon’s strength, the human’s “indomitable will” as the Doctor put it, the Time Lord’s 5D mind, what-have-you. Any defects or weaknesses are left out of the process. The Borg are literally all of the good with none of the bad. Cybermen are just a brain in a box with emotional damping (not removal) and brainwashing.
The Borg Queen (as much as I hate the concept) exists in a transwarp state. She can be everywhere and nowhere. The Cyberking is one being at one location.
The Borg’s nanotech prevents the Cyberman conversion process from working. The Cybermen take out a Borg drone’s brain and slap it into a cybershell, and the nanomachines in the Borg’s blood and brain assimilate the whole thing once again.
The Borg are all of one mind. It spans millions of light years, trillions of units. No contest when we’re talking about the “will” to overcome the brainwashing.
Now, the Cybus Cyberman would take vast efforts to assimilate if the Borg were interested in the shell. They’re not. The Cybermen are so much like the Borg themselves as to irrelevant. While the Cybermen might attempt to upgrade the Borg, the Borg wouldn’t care. They’d scan any unknown technology, integrate the most useful, and move on.
December 2nd, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Either way the Borg still suck
December 9th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Ducted cooling can be a device in the past